Comments on: What the Bible Says About Baptism http://psalm45publications.com/scripture-lists/what-the-bible-says-about-baptism/ The Writings of Nathan Pitchford Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:25:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: pitchford http://psalm45publications.com/scripture-lists/what-the-bible-says-about-baptism/comment-page-1/#comment-9682 pitchford Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:55:54 +0000 http://psalm45publications.com/?p=1814#comment-9682 <p>Hi Job,</p> <p>Equating baptism with circumcision is not extrabiblical at all! Read Colossians two. And I think there is much, much more than a single biblical text to support the practice, I included many of them in the list above.</p> <p>Thank you both for commenting, feel free to speak your mind. :)</p> Hi Job,

Equating baptism with circumcision is not extrabiblical at all! Read Colossians two. And I think there is much, much more than a single biblical text to support the practice, I included many of them in the list above.

Thank you both for commenting, feel free to speak your mind. :)

]]> By: pitchford http://psalm45publications.com/scripture-lists/what-the-bible-says-about-baptism/comment-page-1/#comment-9681 pitchford Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:52:41 +0000 http://psalm45publications.com/?p=1814#comment-9681 <p>Hey Matthew,</p> <p>I think your church history is a little off, and I know for sure that your statement, "water baptism has nothing to do with and [sic] OT," is utterly false. Peter and Paul both explicitly say that baptism was in the OT, as did the writer of the letter to the Hebrews, the entire consensus of early Church fathers, etc.</p> Hey Matthew,

I think your church history is a little off, and I know for sure that your statement, “water baptism has nothing to do with and [sic] OT,” is utterly false. Peter and Paul both explicitly say that baptism was in the OT, as did the writer of the letter to the Hebrews, the entire consensus of early Church fathers, etc.

]]> By: Job http://psalm45publications.com/scripture-lists/what-the-bible-says-about-baptism/comment-page-1/#comment-9680 Job Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:15:39 +0000 http://psalm45publications.com/?p=1814#comment-9680 <p>Accepting paedobaptism because it is the circumcision of the new covenant (a tenuous proposition to begin with because only the males were circumcised and both sexes are sprinkled) means giving extrabiblical revelation the same weight as scripture. Even paedobaptists acknowledge that there is not a single Bible text that supports the practice, and resort to systematic theology to justify it. Read Westminster and the other confessions: infant baptism is supposed to cleanse infants of original sin and seal them until the time of regeneration. Where does the Bible ever say or even imply such a thing?</p> Accepting paedobaptism because it is the circumcision of the new covenant (a tenuous proposition to begin with because only the males were circumcised and both sexes are sprinkled) means giving extrabiblical revelation the same weight as scripture. Even paedobaptists acknowledge that there is not a single Bible text that supports the practice, and resort to systematic theology to justify it. Read Westminster and the other confessions: infant baptism is supposed to cleanse infants of original sin and seal them until the time of regeneration. Where does the Bible ever say or even imply such a thing?

]]> By: Matthew http://psalm45publications.com/scripture-lists/what-the-bible-says-about-baptism/comment-page-1/#comment-9679 Matthew Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:41:16 +0000 http://psalm45publications.com/?p=1814#comment-9679 <p>The problems many Christians have in understanding Water Baptism (as John administered to Christ) is misinterpreting (eisegesis) and erronously associating it with the OT covenant of circumcision. The water baptism has nothing to do with and OT, which Christ fulfilled, but is an outward symbol(and practice) of an inner heart given to Christ. </p> <p>The whole counsel of God (OT through NT) emphatically equates water baptism with regeneration/purification, and never was administered to anyone who was not of the age of consent, nor a believer. Infant baptism was not administered until the days of Constantine (for Imperial tax & State run church tithe, which was a unified giving). Constantine wrote a decree requiring every infant in his Empire to be baptised and a record kept, or the penalty of death (parents as well).</p> <p>A fantastic book on the early church (250 A.D) through the Reformation (including many writings of Calvin, Luther, Augustine, Zwingli, Bullinger, Beza, and others) is The Reformers and Their Stepchildren by Verduin. Great Read and an eye-opener to any Reform Theology buff.</p> The problems many Christians have in understanding Water Baptism (as John administered to Christ) is misinterpreting (eisegesis) and erronously associating it with the OT covenant of circumcision. The water baptism has nothing to do with and OT, which Christ fulfilled, but is an outward symbol(and practice) of an inner heart given to Christ.

The whole counsel of God (OT through NT) emphatically equates water baptism with regeneration/purification, and never was administered to anyone who was not of the age of consent, nor a believer. Infant baptism was not administered until the days of Constantine (for Imperial tax & State run church tithe, which was a unified giving). Constantine wrote a decree requiring every infant in his Empire to be baptised and a record kept, or the penalty of death (parents as well).

A fantastic book on the early church (250 A.D) through the Reformation (including many writings of Calvin, Luther, Augustine, Zwingli, Bullinger, Beza, and others) is The Reformers and Their Stepchildren by Verduin. Great Read and an eye-opener to any Reform Theology buff.

]]>